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What do you think the Americas are like in the Potterverse? Rowling doesn't mention much of anything about them (not that I thnk she ought to - Potter is Brittish, it should stay Brittish, and I nearly got lynched when someone took the question as somehow advocating that she should, for some gawdawful reason "write America in"), but, since I live here ( a couple hours from Salem Mass), I tend to wonder.

I figure here, there is a lot more overlap between the magic using and non magic using world, and the fact that people who don't use (I can't imagine Americans using the term "muggle" any more than "snog," except in an Austin Powers sort of way) magic are dead set on not believing it exists (along with the fact that the witch trials and Cotton Mather and the like would convince the magic using population to keep a low profile) to keep the general mundae population from knowing that anything funky is up.

I suspect also, that there is a lot less of a cohesive society, since North American magicians are going to be a lot more heterogeneous in culture, practice, style, etc, and probably will have been on different sides of a lot of different feuds and fights. What's going on in Brittain right now with Voldemort and the death eaters was probably common in America for a long time. ("You think that's bad, you should have been in Utah in the 1830's when the Mormons wer bucking for independence...")

As a consequence, we probably wouldn't have 1/10th the society or infrastructure that magicians in Europe, Africa and Asia have.

I guess there is a good chance it would play out like Ted Naifeths Courtney Crumrin comics (which are highly recommended). Has anyone else here read them?

In any case, I'm curious to know what you all think, unless you think the question was inappropriate. (Moderator, please advise).
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On January 22nd, 2006 09:33 pm (UTC), luciussnarks commented:
OK I'll bite. Actually I've wondered the same thing myself from time to time, about American wizards and how they'd be organized today if the European wizards began coming here once the New World opened up for the Muggles. I think America would be attractive to the rebels and the daring among them. Naturally, they'd be able to explore their new country with far more ease than the pilgrims and they might even be first to build towns, as transportation and other issues can be helped or solved by magic. Would they 'hide' their society too? I think so. Some wouldn't bother and the ones that didn't would bring about scenareos like in Salem. Persecution and fear abounding. Then you'd have the criminal types maybe escaping from Europe and an Azkaban sentence. They might be America's version of Voldemort, flaunting Dark magic and using it to terrorize Muggles. Poor things always get the short end, huh?

American Wizards would also form their own laws similar, but separate, from the Founding Father's. That's necessary and even a rebel would see magic means operating under policy not covered by ordinary law. That's what bugged me in book one, come to think. How Harry asked Hagrid why the two worlds didn't come together and Hagrid answered 'cause they'd all want magic solutions to their problems' which makes wizards look more selfish than anything. I prefer to think it's because they don't want laws set by a people who fear and misunderstand magic and are prone to overreaction.

Um, that's kind of off the cuff but that's the basics. If this little RPG survives and Lucius doesn't take over, maybe we could plan a trip to America and check things out for ourselves! ;)

*ponders what a Wild West Wizard would be like*

Hee hee!
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On January 23rd, 2006 09:42 pm (UTC), hermione_diary replied:
That really is a good question. I'd second Lucius - probably an entire government department, with it's fingers in all sorts of pies. I can imagine that, like the PM does, the President has one aide/SS guard that is a wizard.

Hmm, a trip to America? count me in!
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On January 27th, 2006 06:57 am (UTC), muggleplugs replied:
I'll agree to most of this, but one thing I wonder...if they can apparate, would wizards have discovered America before the muggles? Is it possible to apparate to a place you haven't been and don't know exists? (Broom travel to scout the area maybe? Though I doubt their brooms in those days would've been very fast.)

I think in the modern era, there might actually be arguments between the traditional rules and some sort of reform. I mean we have all these new agers, Wiccans, and whatever else running around, so wizards could theoretically get by with doing more stuff in front of muggles than in the past. So some would want to push the boundaries and you'd probably see a lot of fortunetellers and mediums and chicks with lots of crystals actually being wizards. So between the old guard and the "rebels" there might be a sort of interaction similar to British wizards vs. mudbloods...some get all up in arms about it, some don't give a flying rat's ass.
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